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* What voltage indicates negative flow? Does the ECU use it?
* What voltage indicates negative flow? Does the ECU use it?
* Is MAP used in [[characteristic curve]] when ECU detects broken/unplugged MAF?
* Is MAP used in [[characteristic curve]] when ECU detects broken/unplugged MAF?
* Near the top of the MAF range, it seems to have a smaller and smaller effect on fueling. Does this mean that maxing the MAF isn't as bad as many believe?


===[[Lemmiwinks]]===
===[[Lemmiwinks]]===
* The [[load]] discussion in the [[lemmiwinks]] article is a now bit better, but still missing where the open/closed loop decision is made.
* High [[EGT]] (>980°C) and [[IAT]] (>120°F) corrections..
*# is there a flag for each, or is the correction progressive?
*# does it affect both fueling and timing?
*# does it affect req boost?
*# does it affect load calculations?


===[[Generations]]===
===[[Generations]]===
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*# Some are 2001, some are 2001.5 (no verification of this rumor)
*# Some are 2001, some are 2001.5 (no verification of this rumor)
*# Some 2001.5 came with h-boxes and do not appear to have F-hoses (doubtful, probably incorrect report)
*# Some 2001.5 came with h-boxes and do not appear to have F-hoses (doubtful, probably incorrect report)
*# Still trying to figure out what the AGB engine code is
* 05/01 and 06/01 cut-off date for 2001.5 and 2002 MY may not be 100% accurate
*# The 2001.5 Tiptronic is listed with build date of 05/01 with L or M box ECU.
*# The 2002 Tiptronic is listed as build date 06/01 with AA box ECU.
*# However, my 2002 Tiptronic has a build date of 05/01 and came with an AA box ECU.


==Articles that need work==
==Articles that need work==
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* is there tip/6sp variation?
* is there tip/6sp variation?


===[[ME7.1]]===
===[[Engine recode]]===
* different between ESP/non-ESP, but how does it interact with ABS and EDL?
* sigh. stub for now.


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==Articles that need content==
==Articles that need content==
===[[ECU Explorer]]===
* USB driver howto
* registration key guide


===[[Load]] (aka [[Charge]]?) vs [[Torque]]===
===[[Load]] (aka [[Charge]]?) vs [[Torque]]===
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# external torque requests
# external torque requests
# internal torque requests
# internal torque requests
# nominal inner torque (req torque?)
# nominal inner torque (spec torque?)
* self study refers to the following "charges"
* self study refers to the following "charges"
# actual charge (calc load?)
# actual charge (calc load?)
# nominal charging moment
# nominal charging moment (spec load?)
# nominal charge (req load?)
# nominal charge (spec load corrected?)


===[[Open loop]]/[[closed loop]]===
===[[Open loop]]/[[closed loop]]===
* What determines which is used when?
* What inputs are used in each to determine fueling
* What inputs are used in each to determine fueling
** closed loop: req load-> base maps + adapt channels + ltfts? (derived from stfts) + stfts?
** closed loop: req load-> base maps + adapt channels + ltfts (derived from stfts) + stfts?
*** stfts derived from narrow band
*** stfts derived from narrow band
** open loop: calc load (from maf) + req load -> base maps + EGT enrich + adapt channels
** open loop: calc load (from maf) + req load -> base maps + EGT enrich + adapt channels
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** req load (based on throttle position during partial throttle or target idle torque if throttle postion is zero) vs calculated load (based on MAF)
** req load (based on throttle position during partial throttle or target idle torque if throttle postion is zero) vs calculated load (based on MAF)
** add in cruise control, traction control, engine protection (e.g. [[throttle cut]])
** add in cruise control, traction control, engine protection (e.g. [[throttle cut]])

===[[EGT enrich]]===
* two thresholds
*# 980C, direct from EGT sensor, which does not read below 945C (1733F)
*# 500C, from calculated EGT, which is derived from load/RPM


===[[O2 sensor]]===
===[[O2 sensor]]===
* Narrow band - only accurate near [[stoichiometric]] A/F
* Narrow band sensor - only accurate near [[stoichiometric]] A/F. Only good for closed loop.
* Why get a wideband sensor for tuning?
* Wideband sensor - accurate everywhere! Great for tuning open loop.


===[[Knock control]]===
===[[Timing]] and [[Knock control]]===
* Relationship between KVs and timing correction factor
* Relationship between KVs and timing correction factor
** Direct?
** Direct?
** Filtered/corrected somehow?
** Filtered/corrected somehow?
** Are logged KV's corrected?
** Are logged KV's corrected?
* Relationship between IATs and timing maps

===[[Characteristic curve]]===
===[[Characteristic curve]]===
* When is it consulted?
* When is it consulted?
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* Is [[MAP]] used?
* Is [[MAP]] used?
* What if ECU detects broken/unplugged MAP?
* What if ECU detects broken/unplugged MAP?

===[[Manifold air pressure]]===
===[[Synchronous path]]/[[Asynchronous path]]===
===[[Synchronous path]]/[[Asynchronous path]]===
* Synchronous path outputs: [[VVT]], ignition timing, injector pulse width
* Synchronous path outputs: [[VVT]], ignition timing, injector pulse width
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* Delete howto
* Delete howto


===[[Master boost controller]]===
===[[Manual boost controller]]===
* Parallel vs series vs alone
* Parallel vs series vs alone
* Tuning
* Tuning
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* aka [[MAP]] clamp
* aka [[MAP]] clamp


===[[N75]],[[N249]],[[Wastegate]]===
===[[N75]], [[N249]], [[Wastegate]]===
* N75 controls wastegate
* N75 controls wastegate
** how is req. boost related to waste gate duty?
** why delete? (to use MBC, AVCR etc)
* N249 controls [[BPV]]
* N249 controls [[BPV]]
** why delete? (no conclusive proof of any advantages)

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To do lists

Questions that need answering

MAF

  • Bosch signal characterization
  • What voltage indicates "zero" flow?
  • What voltage indicates negative flow? Does the ECU use it?
  • Is MAP used in characteristic curve when ECU detects broken/unplugged MAF?
  • Near the top of the MAF range, it seems to have a smaller and smaller effect on fueling. Does this mean that maxing the MAF isn't as bad as many believe?

Lemmiwinks

  • The load discussion in the lemmiwinks article is a now bit better, but still missing where the open/closed loop decision is made.

Generations

  • There is some confusion with cars near the 09/00 build mark
    1. Some are 2001, some are 2001.5 (no verification of this rumor)
    2. Some 2001.5 came with h-boxes and do not appear to have F-hoses (doubtful, probably incorrect report)
    3. Still trying to figure out what the AGB engine code is
  • 05/01 and 06/01 cut-off date for 2001.5 and 2002 MY may not be 100% accurate
    1. The 2001.5 Tiptronic is listed with build date of 05/01 with L or M box ECU.
    2. The 2002 Tiptronic is listed as build date 06/01 with AA box ECU.
    3. However, my 2002 Tiptronic has a build date of 05/01 and came with an AA box ECU.

Articles that need work

Long term fuel trim/Short term fuel trim

  • These articles were directly stolen from this BMW OBD-II article. They need to be checked for accuracy wrt. the S4 and ME7.1

Glossary

  • huge disaster in general. currently just redirects to list of abbreviations. Should get rid of redirect and make a good one.

Bypass valve

  • need more part number information
  • need to reformat into a table
  • need more revision information (and pressure specs etc)

Cluster recode

  • verify there is only h-box/m-box encoding
  • is there tip/6sp variation?

Engine recode

  • different between ESP/non-ESP, but how does it interact with ABS and EDL?

Articles that need content

ECU Explorer

  • USB driver howto
  • registration key guide

Load (aka Charge?) vs Torque

  • self study refers to the following "torques"
  1. external torque requests
  2. internal torque requests
  3. nominal inner torque (spec torque?)
  • self study refers to the following "charges"
  1. actual charge (calc load?)
  2. nominal charging moment (spec load?)
  3. nominal charge (spec load corrected?)

Open loop/closed loop

  • What inputs are used in each to determine fueling
    • closed loop: req load-> base maps + adapt channels + ltfts (derived from stfts) + stfts?
      • stfts derived from narrow band
    • open loop: calc load (from maf) + req load -> base maps + EGT enrich + adapt channels
  • What inputs are used in each to determine boost
  • What inputs are used in each to determine timing
    • calc load (from maf) + req load -> base maps + IAT correction + retard (derived from correction factor)
      • correction factor derived from kvs
  • What inputs are used in each to determine throttle plate angle
    • req load (based on throttle position during partial throttle or target idle torque if throttle postion is zero) vs calculated load (based on MAF)
    • add in cruise control, traction control, engine protection (e.g. throttle cut)

EGT enrich

  • two thresholds
    1. 980C, direct from EGT sensor, which does not read below 945C (1733F)
    2. 500C, from calculated EGT, which is derived from load/RPM

O2 sensor

  • Narrow band sensor - only accurate near stoichiometric A/F. Only good for closed loop.
  • Wideband sensor - accurate everywhere! Great for tuning open loop.

Timing and Knock control

  • Relationship between KVs and timing correction factor
    • Direct?
    • Filtered/corrected somehow?
    • Are logged KV's corrected?
  • Relationship between IATs and timing maps

Characteristic curve

  • When is it consulted?
    • During both open/closed loop?
  • Is MAP used?
  • What if ECU detects broken/unplugged MAP?

Synchronous path/Asynchronous path

  • Synchronous path outputs: VVT, ignition timing, injector pulse width
  • Asychronous path outputs: requested boost, throttle plate angle

Variable valve timing

F-hose

  • Why does it exist?
  • Delete howto

Manual boost controller

  • Parallel vs series vs alone
  • Tuning
  • Relation to throttle cut and TCD

Throttle cut defender

N75, N249, Wastegate

  • N75 controls wastegate
    • how is req. boost related to waste gate duty?
    • why delete? (to use MBC, AVCR etc)
  • N249 controls BPV
    • why delete? (no conclusive proof of any advantages)

RNS-E Nav information