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==Flow==
==Flow==
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! colspan="3"|Injector || Rated flow || 2 bar || 3 bar || 3.5 bar || 4 bar || 5 bar || Spray pattern || Length || Connector
! colspan="3"|Injector || Rated flow || 2 bar || 3 bar || 3.5 bar || 4 bar || 5 bar || Cone || Spray pattern || Inclination || Length || Connector
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| rowspan="2" | Siemens || rowspan="2" | Deka || S4 || 33#@4bar || || || ||'''349cc/33#'''|| 390cc/37# || rowspan="2"|15° || rowspan="2"|dual, 21° || rowspan="2"|13° || 52mm ||rowspan="5" | Jetronic
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| rowspan="2" | Siemens || rowspan="2" | Deka || S4 || 33#@4bar || || || ||'''349cc/33#'''|| 390cc/37# || ? || 52mm ||rowspan="5" | Jetronic
| RS4 078 133 551 BJ || 46#@4bar || || || ||'''480cc/46#'''|| 538cc/51# || 37mm
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| RS4 078 133 551 BJ || 46#@4bar || || || ||'''480cc/46#'''|| 538cc/51# ||15° dual || 37mm
| rowspan="9" | Bosch || colspan="2"|Bluetop ||36#@3bar || 309cc/29# ||'''380cc/36#'''|| || 422cc/40# || 490cc/47# || ? || ? || rowspan=3|0° || ?
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| rowspan="9" | Bosch || colspan="2"|Bluetop ||36#@3bar || 309cc/29# ||'''380cc/36#'''|| || 422cc/40# || 490cc/47# || ? || ?
| colspan="2"|Greentop ||42#@3bar || ||'''475cc/45#'''|| || 550cc/52# || 615cc/59# || 15° || single || rowspan="2"|64mm
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| colspan="2"|Greentop ||42#@3bar || ||'''475cc/45#'''|| || 550cc/52# || 615cc/59# || 15° single || rowspan="2"|64mm
| colspan="2" | Green Giant (Volvo)||42#@3bar|| ||'''450cc/43#'''|| || 520cc/50# || 560cc/55# || 15° || dual
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| colspan="2" | Green Giant (Volvo)||42#@3bar|| ||'''450cc/43#'''|| || 520cc/50# || 560cc/55# || 15° dual
| rowspan="6" | EV14 || 0 280 158 117||532cc@2.7bar|| ||'''550cc/52#'''|| || 635cc/60# || || rowspan="2"|15° || rowspan=2|dual||rowspan=2|0°||rowspan="4"|52mm||rowspan="2"|USCAR
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| rowspan="6" | EV14 || 0 280 158 117||532cc@2.7bar|| ||'''550cc/52#'''|| || 635cc/60# || || rowspan="2"|15° dual||rowspan="4"|52mm||rowspan="2"|USCAR
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| 0 280 158 117 (modified?) ||750cc@3bar || ||'''750cc/72#'''|| || 865cc/82# ||
| 0 280 158 117 (modified?) ||750cc@3bar || ||'''750cc/72#'''|| || 865cc/82# ||
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| 0 280 158 123 (997 turbo, GT3RS)||627cc@3bar || ||'''627cc/60#'''|| || 724cc/69# || 809cc/77# || 25° dual || Jetronic
| 0 280 158 123 (997 turbo, GT3RS)||627cc@3bar || ||'''627cc/60#'''|| || 724cc/69# || 809cc/77# || 25° || dual || rowspan=2|13°? || Jetronic
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| 0 280 158 298 (Ford DR3Z-9F593-A)||55#@39.1psi || ||'''627cc/60#'''|| || 724cc/69# || 809cc/77# || 25° dual? || USCAR
| 0 280 158 298 (Ford DR3Z-9F593-A)||55#@39.1psi || ||'''627cc/60#'''|| || 724cc/69# || 809cc/77# || 25° || dual? || USCAR
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| 0 280 158 040 ||980cc@3bar || ||'''980cc/93#'''|| || 1031cc/108#|| || 30° wide || rowspan="2"|37mm || Jetronic
| 0 280 158 040 ||980cc@3bar || ||'''980cc/93#'''|| || 1031cc/108#|| || 30° || single || rowspan=13|0° || rowspan="2"|37mm || Jetronic
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| B 280 436 469-01 (Motorsport)||1019cc@3bar || ||'''1019cc/97#'''|| || 1176cc/112#|| || 20° dual || Jetronic (rotated 90°)
| B 280 436 469-01 (Motorsport)||1019cc@3bar || ||'''1019cc/97#'''|| || 1176cc/112#|| || 20° || dual || Jetronic (rotated 90°)
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| rowspan="4" colspan="3" | Delphi ||37#@3bar || ||'''391cc/37#'''|| || 462cc/43# || || rowspan="3"| ? ||rowspan="4"|?||rowspan="4" | Jetronic
| rowspan="4" colspan="3" | Delphi ||37#@3bar || ||'''391cc/37#'''|| || 462cc/43# || || rowspan="3"| ? || rowspan="4"| ? || rowspan="4"| ? || rowspan="4" | Jetronic
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| 38#@3bar || ||'''399cc/38#'''|| || 462cc/44# ||
| 38#@3bar || ||'''399cc/38#'''|| || 462cc/44# ||
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| 42#@3bar || ||'''441cc/42#'''|| || 515cc/49# ||
| 42#@3bar || ||'''441cc/42#'''|| || 515cc/49# ||
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| 50#@3bar || ||'''525cc/50#'''|| || 609cc/58# || || 22.4° wide
| 50#@3bar || ||'''525cc/50#'''|| || 609cc/58# || || 22.4°
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| rowspan="4" | Siemens || rowspan="4"|Deka || IV ('03 SRT4)||41#?@3bar|| ||'''452cc/41#?'''|| || 524cc/47#?|| || Dual? || rowspan="2"|52mm ||rowspan="2" | USCAR
| rowspan="4" | Siemens || rowspan="4"|Deka || IV ('03 SRT4)||41#?@3bar|| ||'''452cc/41#?'''|| || 524cc/47#?|| || ? || dual? || rowspan="2"|52mm ||rowspan="2" | USCAR
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| IV ('04 SRT4)||45#@3bar || ||'''475cc/45#'''|| || 546cc/52# || || Dual?
| IV ('04 SRT4)||45#@3bar || ||'''475cc/45#'''|| || 546cc/52# || || ? || dual?
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| ID (3172) ||55#@3bar ||472cc/45#||'''600cc/57#'''||624cc/59.5#||667cc/63.5#||746cc/71# || 15° single|| rowspan="2"|64mm ||rowspan="3" | Jetronic
| ID (3172) ||55#@3bar ||472cc/45#||'''600cc/57#'''||624cc/59.5#||667cc/63.5#||746cc/71# || 15° || single|| rowspan="2"|64mm ||rowspan="3" | Jetronic
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| IV (1496) ||60#@3bar ||514cc/49#||'''630cc/60#'''|| || 727cc/70# || || 30.0° wide
| IV (1496) ||60#@3bar ||514cc/49#||'''630cc/60#'''|| || 727cc/70# || || 30.0°
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| rowspan="3" colspan="3" | Genesis ||415cc@3bar|| ||'''415cc/39#'''|| || 483cc/46# || || rowspan="3"|Dual || rowspan="3" | 52mm
| rowspan="3" colspan="3" | Genesis ||415cc@3bar|| ||'''415cc/39#'''|| || 483cc/46# || || ? || rowspan="3"|dual || rowspan="3" | 52mm
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| 430cc@3bar|| ||'''430cc/41#'''|| || 494cc/47# || || rowspan="2" | USCAR
| 430cc@3bar|| ||'''430cc/41#'''|| || 494cc/47# || || ? || rowspan="2" | USCAR
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| 550cc@3bar|| ||'''550cc/52#'''|| 580cc/55# || 635cc/60# ||
| 550cc@3bar|| ||'''550cc/52#'''|| 580cc/55# || 635cc/60# ||

Revision as of 17:39, 9 June 2014

Flow

Injector Rated flow 2 bar 3 bar 3.5 bar 4 bar 5 bar Cone Spray pattern Inclination Length Connector
Siemens Deka S4 33#@4bar 349cc/33# 390cc/37# 15° dual, 21° 13° 52mm Jetronic
RS4 078 133 551 BJ 46#@4bar 480cc/46# 538cc/51# 37mm
Bosch Bluetop 36#@3bar 309cc/29# 380cc/36# 422cc/40# 490cc/47# ? ? ?
Greentop 42#@3bar 475cc/45# 550cc/52# 615cc/59# 15° single 64mm
Green Giant (Volvo) 42#@3bar 450cc/43# 520cc/50# 560cc/55# 15° dual
EV14 0 280 158 117 532cc@2.7bar 550cc/52# 635cc/60# 15° dual 52mm USCAR
0 280 158 117 (modified?) 750cc@3bar 750cc/72# 865cc/82#
0 280 158 123 (997 turbo, GT3RS) 627cc@3bar 627cc/60# 724cc/69# 809cc/77# 25° dual 13°? Jetronic
0 280 158 298 (Ford DR3Z-9F593-A) 55#@39.1psi 627cc/60# 724cc/69# 809cc/77# 25° dual? USCAR
0 280 158 040 980cc@3bar 980cc/93# 1031cc/108# 30° single 37mm Jetronic
B 280 436 469-01 (Motorsport) 1019cc@3bar 1019cc/97# 1176cc/112# 20° dual Jetronic (rotated 90°)
Delphi 37#@3bar 391cc/37# 462cc/43# ? ? ? Jetronic
38#@3bar 399cc/38# 462cc/44#
42#@3bar 441cc/42# 515cc/49#
50#@3bar 525cc/50# 609cc/58# 22.4°
Siemens Deka IV ('03 SRT4) 41#?@3bar 452cc/41#? 524cc/47#? ? dual? 52mm USCAR
IV ('04 SRT4) 45#@3bar 475cc/45# 546cc/52# ? dual?
ID (3172) 55#@3bar 472cc/45# 600cc/57# 624cc/59.5# 667cc/63.5# 746cc/71# 15° single 64mm Jetronic
IV (1496) 60#@3bar 514cc/49# 630cc/60# 727cc/70# 30.0°
Genesis 415cc@3bar 415cc/39# 483cc/46# ? dual 52mm
430cc@3bar 430cc/41# 494cc/47# ? USCAR
550cc@3bar 550cc/52# 580cc/55# 635cc/60#
  • Bold denotes the rated pressure.
  • Length is o-ring center to center.

Spacers

Bosch injector sizing guide

2 1/2" (64mm) injectors require 12mm (7/16") rail spacers when using the S4 intake manifold and fuel rail. If you are using an RS4 fuel rail you will need a 1" spacer! 1 1/2" (37mm) injectors require 15mm (9/16") injector spacers with the S4 fuel rail.

mm inches Bosch (not c-to-c) S4 injector spacer S4 rail spacer RS4 rail spacer
37mm 1 1/2" 33.60mm 15mm (9/16") N/A none
52mm 2 1/16" 48.65mm none none 15mm (9/16")
64mm 2 1/2" 60.65mm N/A 12mm (7/16") 27mm (1")

Note that Bosch's EV14 length specs are not o-ring center to center


Adaptors

Connector Shape Bosch A.K.A.
Jetronic Rectangle Design II/EV1 Minitimer
USCAR Oval Design III/EV6/EV14

Injectors are male, harness is female, so to use a USCAR/EV6/EV14 injector on a Minitimer/Jetronic/EV1 car, you need a USCAR (female) to Jetronic (male) adapter.[1][2]


Conversions

lb/hr to cc/min

Flow dependency on pressure

  • 3 bar = 43.5 psi
  • 4 bar = 58.0 psi
  • 5 bar = 72.5 psi
  • RC Engineering's online calculator

Common test fluids

  • Density of typical test fluid = 760 - 770 kg/m3
    1 lb/hr = 9.81 - 9.95 cc/min
  • Density of n-heptane = 685 kg/m3
    1 lb/hr = 11.0 cc/min
    1 cc/min = 0.685 g/min

Instrument cluster

If you change fuel injectors, your instrument cluster will estimate your fuel consumption incorrectly. Use VAG-COM to adjust it by going to Instrument cluster (17) -> Adaptation (10) -> Channel (03).[3]

Unfortunately, you can only set it to a maximum of 115%. Default is 100%.

If you have access to ME7.x tuning tools, you can completely fix cluster consumption by adjusting the KVB 1x1.

References

Notes