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! colspan="3"|Injector || Rated flow || 2 bar || 3 bar || 3.5 bar || 4 bar || 5 bar || Cone || Pattern || Bend (γ) || Length || Connector |
! colspan="3"|Injector || Rated flow || 2 bar || 3 bar || 3.5 bar || 4 bar || 5 bar || Cone (α)|| Pattern (β), δ || Bend (γ) || Length || Connector |
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| rowspan="2" | Siemens || rowspan="2" | Deka || S4 || 33#@4bar || || || ||'''349cc/33#'''|| 390cc/37# || rowspan="2"|21° || rowspan="2"|dual 15°, 0° δ || rowspan="2"|13° || 52mm ||rowspan="5" | Jetronic |
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| rowspan="2" | Siemens || rowspan="2" | Deka || S4 || 33#@4bar || || || ||'''349cc/33#'''|| 390cc/37# || rowspan="2"|21° || rowspan="2"|dual 15°, 270° δ || 0° || 52mm ||rowspan="5" | Jetronic |
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| RS4 078 133 551 BJ || 46#@4bar || || || ||'''480cc/46#'''|| 538cc/51# || 13°|| 37mm |
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| rowspan="10" | Bosch || colspan="2"|Bluetop ||36#@3bar || 309cc/29# ||'''380cc/36#'''|| || 422cc/40# || 490cc/47# || ? || ? || rowspan=3|0° || ? |
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| colspan="2"|Greentop ||42#@3bar || ||'''475cc/45#'''|| || 550cc/52# || 615cc/59# || 15° || single || rowspan="2"|64mm |
| colspan="2"|Greentop ||42#@3bar || ||'''475cc/45#'''|| || 550cc/52# || 615cc/59# || 15° || single || rowspan="2"|64mm |
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| colspan="2" | Green Giant (Volvo)||42#@3bar|| ||'''450cc/43#'''|| || 520cc/50# || 560cc/55# || 15° || dual |
| colspan="2" | Green Giant (Volvo)||42#@3bar|| ||'''450cc/43#'''|| || 520cc/50# || 560cc/55# || 15° || dual |
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| EV6 || 0 280 156 063 ||269g(n-h)@3bar|| ||'''393cc/36#'''|| || 454cc/41# || || 15° || dual 10°, 270° δ || 10° || 52mm || Jetronic |
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| rowspan="6" | EV14 || 0 280 158 117||532cc@2.7bar|| ||'''550cc/52#'''|| || 635cc/60# || || rowspan="2"| 15° || rowspan=2|dual |
| rowspan="6" | EV14 || 0 280 158 117||532cc@2.7bar|| ||'''550cc/52#'''|| || 635cc/60# || || rowspan="2"| 15° || rowspan=2|dual 5°, 270° δ|| rowspan=2|12° || rowspan="4"|52mm || rowspan="2"|USCAR |
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| 0 280 158 117 (modified) ||750cc@3bar || ||'''750cc/72#'''|| || 865cc/82# || |
| 0 280 158 117 (modified) ||750cc@3bar || ||'''750cc/72#'''|| || 865cc/82# || |
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| 0 280 158 123 (997 turbo, GT3RS)||627cc@3bar |
| 0 280 158 123 (997 turbo, GT3RS)||627cc@3bar|| ||'''627cc/60#'''|| || 724cc/69# || 809cc/77# || 25° || dual 7°, 90° δ || 0° || Jetronic |
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| 0 280 158 298 (Ford DR3Z-9F593-A)||55#@39.1psi || ||'''627cc/60#'''|| || 724cc/69# || 809cc/77# || |
| 0 280 158 298 (Ford DR3Z-9F593-A)||55#@39.1psi || ||'''627cc/60#'''|| || 724cc/69# || 809cc/77# || 17° || dual 7°, 270° δ || 10° || USCAR |
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| 0 280 158 040 ||980cc@3bar || ||'''980cc/93#'''|| || 1031cc/108#|| || 30° || single || 0° || rowspan="2"|37mm || Jetronic |
| 0 280 158 040 ||980cc@3bar || ||'''980cc/93#'''|| || 1031cc/108#|| || 30° || single || 0° || rowspan="2"|37mm || Jetronic |
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| B 280 436 469-01 (Motorsport)||1019cc@3bar || ||'''1019cc/97#'''|| || 1176cc/112#|| || 20° || dual 7°, |
| B 280 436 469-01 (Motorsport)||1019cc@3bar || ||'''1019cc/97#'''|| || 1176cc/112#|| || 20° || dual 7°, 270° δ || 0°? || Jetronic |
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| rowspan="4" colspan="3" | Delphi ||37#@3bar || ||'''391cc/ |
| rowspan="4" colspan="3" | Delphi ||37#@3bar || ||'''391cc/35#'''|| || 462cc/43# || || rowspan="3"| ? || rowspan="4"| ? || rowspan="11"| 0° || rowspan="4"| ? || rowspan="4" | Jetronic |
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| 38#@3bar || ||'''399cc/38#'''|| || 462cc/44# || |
| 38#@3bar || ||'''399cc/38#'''|| || 462cc/44# || |
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| ID (3172) ||55#@3bar ||472cc/45#||'''600cc/57#'''||624cc/59.5#||667cc/63.5#||746cc/71# || 15° || single|| rowspan="2"|64mm ||rowspan="3" | Jetronic |
| ID (3172) ||55#@3bar ||472cc/45#||'''600cc/57#'''||624cc/59.5#||667cc/63.5#||746cc/71# || 15° || single|| rowspan="2"|64mm ||rowspan="3" | Jetronic |
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| IV (1496) ||60#@3bar ||514cc/49#||'''630cc/60#'''|| || 727cc/70# || || 30.0° |
| IV (1496) ||60#@3bar ||514cc/49#||'''630cc/60#'''|| || 727cc/70# || || 30.0° |
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| rowspan="3" colspan="3" | Genesis ||415cc@3bar|| ||'''415cc/39#'''|| || 483cc/46# || || ? || rowspan="3"|dual || rowspan="3" | 52mm |
| rowspan="3" colspan="3" | Genesis ||415cc@3bar|| ||'''415cc/39#'''|| || 483cc/46# || || ? || rowspan="3"|dual || rowspan="3" | 52mm |
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*'''Length''' is o-ring center to center. |
*'''Length''' is o-ring center to center. |
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==Orientation== |
==Pattern/Orientation== |
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*'''Cone''' angle |
*'''Cone''' angle - Bosch: |
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**'α80' for single cone (how much angle contains 80% of mass). |
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**'α50' for dual cone (how much angle contains 50% of mass in both cones) |
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*'''Pattern''' angle for dual cone - Bosch 'β' (how much angle of one of the cones contains 70% of its individual mass) |
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*'''Orientation''' angle - Bosch 'δ' |
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'''Stock injectors are dual cone with |
'''Stock injectors are dual cone with 270° δ and have non-zero γ (S4 is 0° γ?) |
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*Injectors with 90° δ or 270° δ must be clocked with their connectors perpendicular to the block, such that the dual cone is parallel with the block. |
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*Injectors with 0° δ or 180° δ must be clocked with their connectors parallel to the block, not perpendicular, such that the dual cone is parallel with the block. |
*Injectors with 0° δ or 180° δ must be clocked with their connectors parallel to the block, not perpendicular, such that the dual cone is parallel with the block. |
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*Injectors with non-zero &gamma |
*Injectors with non-zero γ must be oriented so their "bend" is oriented into the heads properly. |
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*Injectors with non-zero γ and a 90° δ cannot be physically clocked correctly, since the physical connector prevents the injector from being clocked such that the bend points in the correct direction. |
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Note that many 0 280 158 117 injectors modified for greater flow ARE NO LONGER DUAL CONE! Verify before installing. |
Note that many 0 280 158 117 injectors modified for greater flow ARE NO LONGER DUAL CONE! Verify before installing. |
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=== lb/hr to cc/min=== |
=== lb/hr to cc/min=== |
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* '''1 lb/hr gasoline = 10.5 cc/min''' (@720 kg/m<sup>3</sup>) - ([http://www.google.com/search?q=%281+lb%2Fhr+%2F+720+kg%2Fm%5E3+%29+in+cc%2Fminute%3D 1 (pound / hr)) / (720 (kg / (m^3)) ]) |
* '''1 lb/hr gasoline = 10.5 cc/min''' (@720 kg/m<sup>3</sup>) - ([http://www.google.com/search?q=%281+lb%2Fhr+%2F+720+kg%2Fm%5E3+%29+in+cc%2Fminute%3D 1 (pound / hr)) / (720 (kg / (m^3)) ]) |
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* '''1 g/min gasoline = 1.39 cc/min''' (@720 kg/m<sup>3</sup>) - ([https://www.google.com/search?q=(1+g%2Fmin+%2F+720+kg%2Fm^3+)+in+cc%2Fminute%3D 1 g/min / 720 kg/m^3 ) in cc/minute=]) |
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=== Flow dependency on pressure === |
=== Flow dependency on pressure === |
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* Density of n-heptane = 685 kg/m<sup>3</sup> |
* Density of n-heptane = 685 kg/m<sup>3</sup> |
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*: 1 lb/hr = 11.0 cc/min |
*: 1 lb/hr = 11.0 cc/min |
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*: 1 cc/min = 0.685 g/min |
*: 1 cc/min = 0.685 g/min |
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Latest revision as of 20:09, 19 July 2021
Flow
Injector | Rated flow | 2 bar | 3 bar | 3.5 bar | 4 bar | 5 bar | Cone (α) | Pattern (β), δ | Bend (γ) | Length | Connector | ||
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Siemens | Deka | S4 | 33#@4bar | 349cc/33# | 390cc/37# | 21° | dual 15°, 270° δ | 0° | 52mm | Jetronic | |||
RS4 078 133 551 BJ | 46#@4bar | 480cc/46# | 538cc/51# | 13° | 37mm | ||||||||
Bosch | Bluetop | 36#@3bar | 309cc/29# | 380cc/36# | 422cc/40# | 490cc/47# | ? | ? | 0° | ? | |||
Greentop | 42#@3bar | 475cc/45# | 550cc/52# | 615cc/59# | 15° | single | 64mm | ||||||
Green Giant (Volvo) | 42#@3bar | 450cc/43# | 520cc/50# | 560cc/55# | 15° | dual | |||||||
EV6 | 0 280 156 063 | 269g(n-h)@3bar | 393cc/36# | 454cc/41# | 15° | dual 10°, 270° δ | 10° | 52mm | Jetronic | ||||
EV14 | 0 280 158 117 | 532cc@2.7bar | 550cc/52# | 635cc/60# | 15° | dual 5°, 270° δ | 12° | 52mm | USCAR | ||||
0 280 158 117 (modified) | 750cc@3bar | 750cc/72# | 865cc/82# | ||||||||||
0 280 158 123 (997 turbo, GT3RS) | 627cc@3bar | 627cc/60# | 724cc/69# | 809cc/77# | 25° | dual 7°, 90° δ | 0° | Jetronic | |||||
0 280 158 298 (Ford DR3Z-9F593-A) | 55#@39.1psi | 627cc/60# | 724cc/69# | 809cc/77# | 17° | dual 7°, 270° δ | 10° | USCAR | |||||
0 280 158 040 | 980cc@3bar | 980cc/93# | 1031cc/108# | 30° | single | 0° | 37mm | Jetronic | |||||
B 280 436 469-01 (Motorsport) | 1019cc@3bar | 1019cc/97# | 1176cc/112# | 20° | dual 7°, 270° δ | 0°? | Jetronic | ||||||
Delphi | 37#@3bar | 391cc/35# | 462cc/43# | ? | ? | 0° | ? | Jetronic | |||||
38#@3bar | 399cc/38# | 462cc/44# | |||||||||||
42#@3bar | 441cc/42# | 515cc/49# | |||||||||||
50#@3bar | 525cc/50# | 609cc/58# | 22.4° | ||||||||||
Siemens | Deka | IV ('03 SRT4) | 41#?@3bar | 452cc/41#? | 524cc/47#? | ? | dual? | 52mm | USCAR | ||||
IV ('04 SRT4) | 45#@3bar | 475cc/45# | 546cc/52# | ? | dual? | ||||||||
ID (3172) | 55#@3bar | 472cc/45# | 600cc/57# | 624cc/59.5# | 667cc/63.5# | 746cc/71# | 15° | single | 64mm | Jetronic | |||
IV (1496) | 60#@3bar | 514cc/49# | 630cc/60# | 727cc/70# | 30.0° | ||||||||
Genesis | 415cc@3bar | 415cc/39# | 483cc/46# | ? | dual | 52mm | |||||||
430cc@3bar | 430cc/41# | 494cc/47# | ? | USCAR | |||||||||
550cc@3bar | 550cc/52# | 580cc/55# | 635cc/60# |
- Bold denotes the rated flow/pressure.
- Length is o-ring center to center.
Pattern/Orientation
- Cone angle - Bosch:
- 'α80' for single cone (how much angle contains 80% of mass).
- 'α50' for dual cone (how much angle contains 50% of mass in both cones)
- Pattern angle for dual cone - Bosch 'β' (how much angle of one of the cones contains 70% of its individual mass)
- Orientation angle - Bosch 'δ'
- Bend angle - Bosch 'γ'
Stock injectors are dual cone with 270° δ and have non-zero γ (S4 is 0° γ?)
- Injectors with 90° δ or 270° δ must be clocked with their connectors perpendicular to the block, such that the dual cone is parallel with the block.
- Injectors with 0° δ or 180° δ must be clocked with their connectors parallel to the block, not perpendicular, such that the dual cone is parallel with the block.
- Injectors with non-zero γ must be oriented so their "bend" is oriented into the heads properly.
- Injectors with non-zero γ and a 90° δ cannot be physically clocked correctly, since the physical connector prevents the injector from being clocked such that the bend points in the correct direction.
Note that many 0 280 158 117 injectors modified for greater flow ARE NO LONGER DUAL CONE! Verify before installing.
Spacers
2 1/2" (64mm) injectors require 12mm (7/16") rail spacers when using the S4 intake manifold and fuel rail. If you are using an RS4 fuel rail you will need a 1" spacer! 1 1/2" (37mm) injectors require 15mm (9/16") injector spacers with the S4 fuel rail.
mm | inches | Bosch (not c-to-c) | S4 injector spacer | S4 rail spacer | RS4 rail spacer |
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37mm | 1 1/2" | 33.60mm | 15mm (9/16") | N/A | none |
52mm | 2 1/16" | 48.65mm | none | none | 15mm (9/16") |
64mm | 2 1/2" | 60.65mm | N/A | 12mm (7/16") | 27mm (1") |
Note that Bosch's EV14 length specs are not o-ring center to center
Adaptors
Connector | Shape | Bosch | A.K.A. |
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Jetronic | Rectangle | Design II/EV1 | Minitimer |
USCAR | Oval | Design III/EV6/EV14 |
Injectors are male, harness is female, so to use a USCAR/EV6/EV14 injector on a Minitimer/Jetronic/EV1 car, you need a USCAR (female) to Jetronic (male) adapter.[1][2]
Conversions
lb/hr to cc/min
- 1 lb/hr gasoline = 10.5 cc/min (@720 kg/m3) - (1 (pound / hr)) / (720 (kg / (m^3)) )
- 1 g/min gasoline = 1.39 cc/min (@720 kg/m3) - (1 g/min / 720 kg/m^3 ) in cc/minute=)
Flow dependency on pressure
- 3 bar = 43.5 psi
- 4 bar = 58.0 psi
- 5 bar = 72.5 psi
- RC Engineering's online calculator
Common test fluids
- Density of typical test fluid = 760 - 770 kg/m3
- 1 lb/hr = 9.81 - 9.95 cc/min
- Density of n-heptane = 685 kg/m3
- 1 lb/hr = 11.0 cc/min
- 1 g/min = 1.46 cc/min
- 1 cc/min = 0.685 g/min
Instrument cluster
If you change fuel injectors, your instrument cluster will estimate your fuel consumption incorrectly. Use VAG-COM to adjust it by going to Instrument cluster (17) -> Adaptation (10) -> Channel (03).[3]
Unfortunately, you can only set it to a maximum of 115%. Default is 100%.
If you have access to ME7.x tuning tools, you can completely fix cluster consumption by adjusting the KVB 1x1.
References
- http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/media/catalog_resources/Injection_Valve_EV_14_Datasheet_51_en_2775993867pdf.pdf - Bosch EV14 data sheet
- http://usrallyteam.com/injectors.html - Genesis
- http://racetronix.com/ - Delphi and Siemens
- http://www.synerject.com/fuelinjectors-dekaIV.html - Custom Siemens Dekas
- http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_SetsMODS.asp - All others
- http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99710 - SRT4
- http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/2091797.phtml - Flow comparison vs. stock.
- http://www.rceng.com/ - RC Engineering
- Bosch injector specifications
- http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4/msgs/183984.phtml - Latency and EV14 PDF.